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Fargoer wrote:

再看那位 “老学者”，人家是讲英语的美国人，居然敢大胆地直接写出“Alone fishing chill river snow”来！我不知道美国人读起来会是什么感受，这恐怕得邀请 wherestip 来评论。给我的感觉是相当的 " Chinglish "。 看得出，这老先生在揣摩原诗的意境方面着实下了点功夫，在英文表达上也是煞费苦心。

wherestip wrote:

　

On the other hand, when one gains some fame, perhaps one's entitled to some poetic/artistic license.  

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/poetic-license

Fargoer wrote: 钓翁之意

David Shen wrote:

At a quick glance, the structure or composition is great (if we can use these terms to describe a poetic composition). One word that sticks out at me is "bark". I don't want to bark at you but you might want to consult with Steve and see what he thinks. I mean how shall we treat the two characters 蓑 and 笠 here in a succinct way without too much explanation.

QHE wrote:



从柳宗元其人和他写诗时的背景推断，诗中的钓翁之意决不仅在于实实在在的鱼或雪。所以我认为使用 “fishing” 不足以表达诗中的意境；而江南David 的译文以 “awaits a bite” 结尾，余音缭绕，与诗的意境更接近 (特别是 “bite” 一词多义)。不过，“await” 多少有点消极之意，我于是用了 “angling solo for a bite” 来体现钓鱼之外的意寓或情趣。





谢谢 David. 其实我也认为诗中的“蓑”译为 “palm-fiber” 比较准确，而不是straw 或 reed 之类。可是在古诗译文里用“palm-fiber” 是不是会加进现代色彩呢？ 我试想从远处望去，钓翁蓑衣的颜色和质感会与树皮比较相近，于是选用了 “bark cape” (本来想在前面加个介词，但我在这句译文中用一个 “in” 应该可以了)。这是我的自圆其说，我是认为在这个语境中“bark”一词不会造成误解 (btw, GTranslate 居然没有误译 “bark cape”).

Steve, I would appreciate hearing your thoughts or comments on this.

https://textileartscenter.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/sustainable-weatherproof-wear/


Rain cape, rice straw, bast fiber, cotton, China, mid 20th century

According to the Textile Museum’s most recent educational tool, Social Fabric (please make a minute to check it, it’s so worth it!), this cape was made using rice straw that was folded and stitched together, assuming the appearance and functionality of a thatched roof. People in remote areas of China still wear these capes to this day.


Rain cape; palm bark fiber, bast fiber, cotton; China, mid 20th century

wherestip wrote:

Or perhaps one could leave out the material and just call the item a thatched raincoat?

QHE wrote:



I like the idea to leave out the material element.

QHE wrote:

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wherestip wrote:

Ugh! It certainly looks like he was using a word-for-word approach in his translation.  
On the other hand, when one gains some fame, perhaps one's entitled to some poetic/artistic license.  
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/poetic-license

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But since you asked, "palm bark fiber" or "bast fiber" both sound good to me.