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Poll: If a client asks for a volume discount, how much would you offer?
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Paul Lambert
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We don't have the benefit of economies of scale. Jun 27, 2021

Higher volumes just means more work for less pay. Doesn't make much sense to me.

If you ordered a six drinks at a bar, do you think you would get them for the price of 5?


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Jocelin Meunier
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Paul Lambert pretty much summed it up, but I would just add that it's an odd thing to ask, volume discounts. As if the client was telling you "Be grateful that I'm giving you so much work."

Ian Keith Jones Williams
Anais Duval
Veronika Malíková
The Shredder
Tom in London
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Anton Konashenok
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Yes, but on my terms Jun 28, 2021

In my experience, clients enquiring about volume discounts rarely give large volumes of work. On a few occasions, I was willing to give a 8-10% discount for workloads over 25000 words a month, but none of these clients ever reached that threshold.

Paul Lambert wrote:
If you ordered a six drinks at a bar, do you think you would get them for the price of 5?


Some Czech bars do offer 6/7/8 beers for a price of 5/6/7 if you order them at once. They bring a portable tap to your table and you draw them yourself.


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Jan Truper
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A volume discount would amount to a pay cut, since I have no shortage of work at my regular rate.

Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
Ian Keith Jones Williams
The Shredder
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Tom in London
Paul Lambert
Christine Andersen
 
Philip Lees
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Client relations Jun 28, 2021

I don't give volume discounts as such, but for long-standing clients who send me regular work I will nudge the rate towards the lower end of my range, and I may throw in the occasional freebee, etc. For me, this is just a normal part of client relations.

A new client who starts asking me for a volume discount before sending me any work at all can go fish, as the Americans say.


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Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
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In my experience, a large-volume job requires more effort, not less. As the many ideas unfold, you have stay aware of their underlying meanings, which may not be clear in a literal translation.

The Shredder
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Tom in London
neilmac
Christine Andersen
Alison Jenner
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Tom in London
Tom in London
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I hope Jun 28, 2021

I hope the agencies are reading this, and learning. We're not selling fish at the market.

[Edited at 2021-06-28 07:49 GMT]


Christine Andersen
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Thaiane Assumpção (X)
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neilmac
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It depends Jun 28, 2021

Depends on who the client is, what the job consists of, and how much I want to keep them satisfied. My rates are already low enough in terms of value for money (quality/price ratio).
PS: I hardly do any agency work nowadays. I don't think it even accounts for 5% of my earnings.

[Edited at 2021-06-28 07:53 GMT]


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Paul Lambert
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Indeed Jun 28, 2021

Anton Konashenok wrote:

In my experience, clients enquiring about volume discounts rarely give large volumes of work. On a few occasions, I was willing to give a 8-10% discount for workloads over 25000 words a month, but none of these clients ever reached that threshold.

Paul Lambert wrote:
If you ordered a six drinks at a bar, do you think you would get them for the price of 5?


Some Czech bars do offer 6/7/8 beers for a price of 5/6/7 if you order them at once. They bring a portable tap to your table and you draw them yourself.


Another good lesson for translators (and everyone else): No analogy is ever 100% on.

[Edited at 2021-06-28 07:53 GMT]


Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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I’ve never been asked and as other colleagues have already said a large volume does not mean less work but if I was it would depend on the job itself and on the client (I’d find really difficult to say no to one of my clients). Like Philip, I may throw in an occasional freebie if I think they deserve it. Though I have a minimum charge I have been waiving it for my longest-standing customer for ages. It's nice to be nice (and it pays handsomely).

Nikolay Novitskiy
 
matt robinson
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It depends Jun 28, 2021

None of my regular clients would ever ask me to drop everything in order to take on a large volume project. If they did, they would probably offer a higher rate, rather than a lower one. With new clients I prefer to build the relationship over time, and I wouldn't instigate or enter into a discussion about "volume".

 
Kay-Viktor Stegemann
Kay-Viktor Stegemann
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In memoriam
1-3% Jun 28, 2021

I like the 1-3% bracket because it makes clear that this is a symbolic discount. As others have pointed out, human translation does not scale (which is the reason for the desperate search by clients/agencies for technical solutions of any kind). On the other hand, having a big project saves me some hassle (like invoicing or communicating for a number of smaller jobs) so I could justify something like 1-3%. Therefore I could offer this kind of discount to a good and reliable client as a sign of g... See more
I like the 1-3% bracket because it makes clear that this is a symbolic discount. As others have pointed out, human translation does not scale (which is the reason for the desperate search by clients/agencies for technical solutions of any kind). On the other hand, having a big project saves me some hassle (like invoicing or communicating for a number of smaller jobs) so I could justify something like 1-3%. Therefore I could offer this kind of discount to a good and reliable client as a sign of good will without giving up any substantial part of my remuneration.Collapse


Paul Lambert
 
Paul Lambert
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Fair enough, Kay-Viktor Jun 28, 2021

Kay-Viktor Stegemann wrote:

I like the 1-3% bracket because it makes clear that this is a symbolic discount. As others have pointed out, human translation does not scale (which is the reason for the desperate search by clients/agencies for technical solutions of any kind). On the other hand, having a big project saves me some hassle (like invoicing or communicating for a number of smaller jobs) so I could justify something like 1-3%. Therefore I could offer this kind of discount to a good and reliable client as a sign of good will without giving up any substantial part of my remuneration.


That much I would do. If indeed in the end equation, given that time is money, I could earn more by getting more translation done in the time I might otherwise be pounding the pavement, then it would make sense.

Taking the question more literally, however, simply offering discounts on volume for the sake of volume is a losing proposition.


Kay-Viktor Stegemann
Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
 
A negative discount Jun 28, 2021

Large jobs almost invariably involve some kind of inconvenience to me, and asking for a discount is the kind of cheek that would bring out my inner child, so I would put my price up instead.

But I don’t ever get asked for discounts.


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